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	<title>Comments on: Internet marketing is one big popularity contest, and that&#8217;s not a good thing</title>
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		<title>By: Sam Freedoms Internet Marketing Controversy Blog</title>
		<link>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/internet-marketing-became-one-big-popularity-contest/#comment-666</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Freedoms Internet Marketing Controversy Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/internet-marketing-became-one-big-popularity-contest/#comment-666</guid>
		<description>Sounds like someone's suggesting that internet marketers are "disingenuous"....

That's true.  What's struck me as particularly appalling is when the average twit who is able to put up some websites and get a little notoriety first starts quoting otherwise great people as if that person really understands what those great people were saying.

When, in fact, the quoter is using the quote just to make money.... not to liberate.

And that's why I call my blog the controversy blog... at a given moment, I'll lock horns with, or gladly abrade, whatever is presenting itself as the next latest greatest.

It should also be noted that a lot of the people in your social media collectives are disingenuous, but naive about it, so it's more difficult for them to be recognized.

There are so many articles they trumpet that SOUND like good information but either its the same old regurgitated crap, "352 ways to get more visitors to your site!", "29 ways to get more links to your site!", "89,000 ways to be noticed in comment sections!", "452 ways to increase your pagerank which doesn't really matter to anyone anyways!" and so on...

...and just to get a little notoriety amidst the collective, people will say that stuff is great... while the real gems lay in a bloggers ability to really make you think...

Go check my controversy meme, for example... and follow it to Dane Morgan's entry and you'll see that while you report on this phenomenon... I'm demonstrating it.

Good topic, you ol crank,
Sam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<script type='text/javascript' src='http://www.sezwho.com/widgets/profile/js_output/wp/abeautifulday/1.3/1.3/8bd533845c1fc43d8202c6362e715395/47a227eeb615e'></script><script type="text/javascript">var sz_global_config_params = {cppluginurl:"http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/wp-content/plugins/sezwho",cpserverurl:"http://www.sezwho.com", sitekey:"8bd533845c1fc43d8202c6362e715395",blogkey:"47a227eeb615e",blogid:"0", plugin_version:"1.3"} ; </script><p>Sounds like someone&#8217;s suggesting that internet marketers are &#8220;disingenuous&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s true.  What&#8217;s struck me as particularly appalling is when the average twit who is able to put up some websites and get a little notoriety first starts quoting otherwise great people as if that person really understands what those great people were saying.</p>
<p>When, in fact, the quoter is using the quote just to make money&#8230;. not to liberate.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s why I call my blog the controversy blog&#8230; at a given moment, I&#8217;ll lock horns with, or gladly abrade, whatever is presenting itself as the next latest greatest.</p>
<p>It should also be noted that a lot of the people in your social media collectives are disingenuous, but naive about it, so it&#8217;s more difficult for them to be recognized.</p>
<p>There are so many articles they trumpet that SOUND like good information but either its the same old regurgitated crap, &#8220;352 ways to get more visitors to your site!&#8221;, &#8220;29 ways to get more links to your site!&#8221;, &#8220;89,000 ways to be noticed in comment sections!&#8221;, &#8220;452 ways to increase your pagerank which doesn&#8217;t really matter to anyone anyways!&#8221; and so on&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and just to get a little notoriety amidst the collective, people will say that stuff is great&#8230; while the real gems lay in a bloggers ability to really make you think&#8230;</p>
<p>Go check my controversy meme, for example&#8230; and follow it to Dane Morgan&#8217;s entry and you&#8217;ll see that while you report on this phenomenon&#8230; I&#8217;m demonstrating it.</p>
<p>Good topic, you ol crank,<br />
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		<title>By: Matt LeVeque</title>
		<link>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/internet-marketing-became-one-big-popularity-contest/#comment-661</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt LeVeque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/internet-marketing-became-one-big-popularity-contest/#comment-661</guid>
		<description>Nice job Tanner. Hopefully more like-minded quality online marketers like yourself will begin to rise to the top and help drive this industry in the right direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice job Tanner. Hopefully more like-minded quality online marketers like yourself will begin to rise to the top and help drive this industry in the right direction.<script type="text/javascript" id="szCommentHiddenTag:661">sz_comment_config_params.sz_comment_data[1]= {comment_id:"661", comment_author:"Matt%20LeVeque", comment_author_url:"http://www.semoe.com", comment_author_email:"oa1BFou2OTxHe%2FHxkKHdQ1F7cmcqiSel7sZpRNsgD9%2B3GcG9kcpQa08ClVi7l9QltjRW%2FMLBqNXXkpTaE1k44%2FYWEogBJd2r7n3PJsIjH2CdLMr4br1EPojqz52JJCnhk2%2FepPUiqbAblCOnCjB8QopvI9ays9Ut61GlTAB%2BnYc%3D",sz_score:"5.0",comment_score:"5.0"};</script></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/internet-marketing-became-one-big-popularity-contest/#comment-659</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/internet-marketing-became-one-big-popularity-contest/#comment-659</guid>
		<description>Some great views here. 
I totaly agree with the community aspect. 

I'm off you read your other post's now. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some great views here.<br />
I totaly agree with the community aspect. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m off you read your other post&#8217;s now. <img src='http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> <script type="text/javascript" id="szCommentHiddenTag:659">sz_comment_config_params.sz_comment_data[2]= {comment_id:"659", comment_author:"Jeff", comment_author_url:"", comment_author_email:"oC4M2g6yt%2FqgCywNACkvat%2BZCwuM5Q3kIlclSfc4anNaISXK6%2FSfNFBYFeQjzc8fnolt0O0znJmQvfur2QJxA1FVIRtMhT0wcwo93%2BiuKStDqInyiS%2FTTEHm5M34mVBs5gr7Wwl%2BwZAmR5VeWZcf7BGeLEyXLTWljQICg0lrIbY%3D",sz_score:"5.0",comment_score:"5.0"};</script></p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
		<link>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/internet-marketing-became-one-big-popularity-contest/#comment-658</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/internet-marketing-became-one-big-popularity-contest/#comment-658</guid>
		<description>"I’m talking about the real online communities."

It's true...us marketers live in never never land. That said, Internet marketers are "real" too...and Sphinn is a "real" community. SEMs need love and community too. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m talking about the real online communities.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true&#8230;us marketers live in never never land. That said, Internet marketers are &#8220;real&#8221; too&#8230;and Sphinn is a &#8220;real&#8221; community. SEMs need love and community too. <img src='http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> <script type="text/javascript" id="szCommentHiddenTag:658">sz_comment_config_params.sz_comment_data[3]= {comment_id:"658", comment_author:"Marty", comment_author_url:"http://www.aimClearBlog.com", comment_author_email:"gJJDNiE6FzkDP%2BqM2IXsTbxmY3590KG207rHjUtfMEfV6%2Bzu6P%2BUWRzYAkbl2ee8VEJ811D%2Bw8JqWhMHsnaJS7VFI174DXoZnb%2BB10evx4nuLh2%2F0RvCNS89hEUJ4OeX2X9ujLSavV%2BG9U7mU8C11Z5bqjNUyXvNPMnTlSH5Kjk%3D",sz_score:"5.9",comment_score:"6.0"};</script></p>
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		<title>By: Tanner Christensen</title>
		<link>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/internet-marketing-became-one-big-popularity-contest/#comment-657</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanner Christensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/internet-marketing-became-one-big-popularity-contest/#comment-657</guid>
		<description>Thanks for the great comments. 
I agree with you YC, finding a middleground between marketing and quality content is the best way to create a positive future for the industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great comments.<br />
I agree with you YC, finding a middleground between marketing and quality content is the best way to create a positive future for the industry.<script type="text/javascript" id="szCommentHiddenTag:657">sz_comment_config_params.sz_comment_data[4]= {comment_id:"657", comment_author:"Tanner%20Christensen", comment_author_url:"http://internethunger.blogspot.com", comment_author_email:"YQUzzTDru8J2QdzPDLq7k%2Bs9cwCoVUEpB5aiffzFX%2FpBoHJBlIq8NA5rgLIQDxoUBNfRKzAzUCLbtEh8uoXAO4FcgR0y02IygQln6l6Sm48TvI2uTphbNiqdpAko6DfoWe%2Fo0kU8Z6Iimq7fLhx0LbNh93xoa%2BiMcabgMA%2BRSos%3D",sz_score:"5.0",comment_score:"5.0"};</script></p>
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		<title>By: YC</title>
		<link>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/internet-marketing-became-one-big-popularity-contest/#comment-655</link>
		<dc:creator>YC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/internet-marketing-became-one-big-popularity-contest/#comment-655</guid>
		<description>Popularity contests are ok as it is part &#38; parcel of life - but the worrying thing will be when a community becomes closed (mafia-like?). And if part of this community establishes certain authority which can be abused then you will likely see poor content masquerading as groundbreaking news.

It is all well and good to concentrate on great content - but it is also just as necessary to spend some time on 'marketing' or 'promotion', in a general sense. So it is up to us to find a good mix of each practise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Popularity contests are ok as it is part &amp; parcel of life - but the worrying thing will be when a community becomes closed (mafia-like?). And if part of this community establishes certain authority which can be abused then you will likely see poor content masquerading as groundbreaking news.</p>
<p>It is all well and good to concentrate on great content - but it is also just as necessary to spend some time on &#8216;marketing&#8217; or &#8216;promotion&#8217;, in a general sense. So it is up to us to find a good mix of each practise.<script type="text/javascript" id="szCommentHiddenTag:655">sz_comment_config_params.sz_comment_data[5]= {comment_id:"655", comment_author:"YC", comment_author_url:"http://www.internetmarketingmind.com", comment_author_email:"nCxK4sshxx%2Br4n%2BkaaMA8hcaZsx2%2BPGkhWqEtV%2BuhuERc9He1MsQVIXAnUFu%2BrCmAoLonfHxl8f12BuUUpJzRFEx5CBl8reOaTRXiVKiRSRNSfv4uSMruZ%2B%2FmxF8TfjtQarYp9JzWIBSFwZtGi8V9UGPfB9oLa8Cmsajyb%2FVIZE%3D",sz_score:"4.8",comment_score:"4.7"};</script></p>
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		<title>By: Shana Albert</title>
		<link>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/internet-marketing-became-one-big-popularity-contest/#comment-654</link>
		<dc:creator>Shana Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/internet-marketing-became-one-big-popularity-contest/#comment-654</guid>
		<description>Great post Tanner!!  I was so excited to go to my reader to get my daily fix of knowledge from my favorite blogs to find that I could read your stuff on Sebastian's site, Awesome!!  Two of my favorite Bloggers in one spot... what a great Friday morning it has been so far.  

It's always great to read your work, Tanner!!

Shana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Tanner!!  I was so excited to go to my reader to get my daily fix of knowledge from my favorite blogs to find that I could read your stuff on Sebastian&#8217;s site, Awesome!!  Two of my favorite Bloggers in one spot&#8230; what a great Friday morning it has been so far.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s always great to read your work, Tanner!!</p>
<p>Shana<script type="text/javascript" id="szCommentHiddenTag:654">sz_comment_config_params.sz_comment_data[6]= {comment_id:"654", comment_author:"Shana%20Albert", comment_author_url:"http://www.socialdesire.com/", comment_author_email:"ie8ALdJh21DbvQYKhI0DVZOykm03mK%2FfgPdCqN0qLksbFvjwj5tFU8eQKJZ%2FGxFmxZVNjxGKr6ovMhDWLtreHHDWaVCj%2BxNKoEWKAQNB1A2UGToyA8eSvpZZdvj%2BWaEkzjP%2FtHF8uy6BNsjpDUszQjl9aEhmPfkAJegOzAp9zaY%3D",sz_score:"4.8",comment_score:"4.7"};if(!(!(/Safari|Konqueror|KHTML/gi).test(navigator.userAgent) &&!navigator.userAgent.match(/opera/gi) && navigator.userAgent.match(/msie/gi))) if (window.SezWho.Utils.callJSFramework)SezWho.Utils.callJSFramework();</script></p>
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