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	<title>Comments on: Google says you must manage your affiliate links in order to get indexed</title>
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		<title>By: Act out your sophisticated affiliate link paranoia</title>
		<link>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/google-recommends-screwing-affiliates-in-exchange-for-better-serp-positioning/#comment-663</link>
		<dc:creator>Act out your sophisticated affiliate link paranoia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/google-recommends-screwing-affiliates-in-exchange-for-better-serp-positioning/#comment-663</guid>
		<description>[...] = document.getElementById(domid); if (handle) handle.style.display = "none"; }  My recent posts on managing affiliate links and nofollow cloaking paid links led to so many reactions from my readers that I thought explaining [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<script type='text/javascript' src='http://www.sezwho.com/widgets/profile/js_output/wp/abeautifulday/1.3/1.3/8bd533845c1fc43d8202c6362e715395/47a227eeb615e'></script><script type="text/javascript">var sz_global_config_params = {cppluginurl:"http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/wp-content/plugins/sezwho",cpserverurl:"http://www.sezwho.com", sitekey:"8bd533845c1fc43d8202c6362e715395",blogkey:"47a227eeb615e",blogid:"0", plugin_version:"1.3"} ; </script><p>[&#8230;] = document.getElementById(domid); if (handle) handle.style.display = &#8220;none&#8221;; }  My recent posts on managing affiliate links and nofollow cloaking paid links led to so many reactions from my readers that I thought explaining [&#8230;]<script type="text/javascript" id="szCommentHiddenTag:663">var sz_comment_config_params = {use_cross_domain_posting:1,post_id:"194", comment_rating_submit_path:"/cpratingsubmit.php",sortOrder:"",sz_auto_comment:0,sz_auto_option_bar:0,comment_number:21, sz_comment_data:[]};sz_comment_config_params.sz_comment_data[0]= {comment_id:"663", comment_author:"Act%20out%20your%20sophisticated%20affiliate%20link%20paranoia", comment_author_url:"http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/linking-guide-for-paranoid-affiliate-marketers/", comment_author_email:"",sz_score:"0",comment_score:"0"};</script></p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/google-recommends-screwing-affiliates-in-exchange-for-better-serp-positioning/#comment-607</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/google-recommends-screwing-affiliates-in-exchange-for-better-serp-positioning/#comment-607</guid>
		<description>If you're after nice early bird discounts &lt;a href="http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/ads/router.php?adName=smxwest200802&#038;adServed=test-text-link"&gt;&lt;b&gt;get your pass for SMX West today&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (Santa Clara, CA, February/26-28/2008). 

I don't broadcast affiliate links. This is a test for some fancy things search engine crawlers should face when they try to crawl the URL. Of course it's a good idea to &lt;a href="http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/ads/router.php?adName=smxwest200802&#038;adServed=test-condomized-text-link" rel="advertising nofollow"&gt;book early&lt;/a&gt;, so the link isn't completely worthless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re after nice early bird discounts <a href="http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/ads/router.php?adName=smxwest200802&#038;adServed=test-text-link"><b>get your pass for SMX West today</b></a> (Santa Clara, CA, February/26-28/2008). </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t broadcast affiliate links. This is a test for some fancy things search engine crawlers should face when they try to crawl the URL. Of course it&#8217;s a good idea to <a href="http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/ads/router.php?adName=smxwest200802&#038;adServed=test-condomized-text-link" rel="advertising nofollow">book early</a>, so the link isn&#8217;t completely worthless.<script type="text/javascript" id="szCommentHiddenTag:607">sz_comment_config_params.sz_comment_data[1]= {comment_id:"607", comment_author:"Sebastian", comment_author_url:"http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/about/", comment_author_email:"GX%2FM%2FRMuCXKp3Lga0Efp6euKyPuFADogwnj7IIDCOc0QVXurbSYXOqS%2FFjGx%2BQr2Y5HaNjs8D9NPHItf8b%2BFHXhUyjH%2B2WHBvp4YTH8lXHsLU%2FAo0iQXMKWR%2FpWTRNwhScKR3Hcx2UTNb0NbMzuH41bqmlQgJQTJnlJ2Gb6LWG4%3D",sz_score:"7.1",comment_score:"5.0"};</script></p>
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		<title>By: A pragmatic defence against Google&#8217;s anti paid links campaign</title>
		<link>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/google-recommends-screwing-affiliates-in-exchange-for-better-serp-positioning/#comment-579</link>
		<dc:creator>A pragmatic defence against Google&#8217;s anti paid links campaign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/google-recommends-screwing-affiliates-in-exchange-for-better-serp-positioning/#comment-579</guid>
		<description>[...] his honest reviews which Google classifies as paid links, and of course all sorts of traffic deals, affiliate links, banner ads and stuff like [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] his honest reviews which Google classifies as paid links, and of course all sorts of traffic deals, affiliate links, banner ads and stuff like [&#8230;]<script type="text/javascript" id="szCommentHiddenTag:579">sz_comment_config_params.sz_comment_data[2]= {comment_id:"579", comment_author:"A%20pragmatic%20defence%20against%20Google%26%238217%3Bs%20anti%20paid%20links%20campaign", comment_author_url:"http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/a-pragmatic-defense-against-googles-anti-paid-links-campaign/", comment_author_email:"",sz_score:"0",comment_score:"0"};</script></p>
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		<title>By: Melanie Phung</title>
		<link>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/google-recommends-screwing-affiliates-in-exchange-for-better-serp-positioning/#comment-407</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie Phung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/google-recommends-screwing-affiliates-in-exchange-for-better-serp-positioning/#comment-407</guid>
		<description>Search engines besides Google? I do not know this thing of which you speak.

ps. arrr!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Search engines besides Google? I do not know this thing of which you speak.</p>
<p>ps. arrr!<script type="text/javascript" id="szCommentHiddenTag:407">sz_comment_config_params.sz_comment_data[3]= {comment_id:"407", comment_author:"Melanie%20Phung", comment_author_url:"", comment_author_email:"dhRwxk%2B8dBLPa1AIZG2cdlHTqpwIn7nywICuO3r1tnZxArrxBStYGxZ7YckMSZlGLshXLEDbt9gYlUhuAYP%2FXMhOVJUzXEHO82F3bjMon%2Fpe5jtWVDwFdnrfbGBENLihdOMXz8wfeHLf2MK0h602SGa5pNO5tmRXr2feW8y0oZI%3D",sz_score:"5.0",comment_score:"5.0"};</script></p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/google-recommends-screwing-affiliates-in-exchange-for-better-serp-positioning/#comment-406</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/google-recommends-screwing-affiliates-in-exchange-for-better-serp-positioning/#comment-406</guid>
		<description>Thanks Melanie, that's the point exactly. Google has improved the canonicalization esp. with affiliate links, and now that they see they're on track they recommend that merchants fine tune their affiliate traffic management, what's a sensible thing to do because besides Google and Yahoo there are other not that smart search engines out there. By the way, as an affiliate I'm not really offended when I lose rankings for pages on a merchants site, because it wasn't fair in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Melanie, that&#8217;s the point exactly. Google has improved the canonicalization esp. with affiliate links, and now that they see they&#8217;re on track they recommend that merchants fine tune their affiliate traffic management, what&#8217;s a sensible thing to do because besides Google and Yahoo there are other not that smart search engines out there. By the way, as an affiliate I&#8217;m not really offended when I lose rankings for pages on a merchants site, because it wasn&#8217;t fair in the first place.<script type="text/javascript" id="szCommentHiddenTag:406">sz_comment_config_params.sz_comment_data[4]= {comment_id:"406", comment_author:"Sebastian", comment_author_url:"http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/about/", comment_author_email:"GX%2FM%2FRMuCXKp3Lga0Efp6euKyPuFADogwnj7IIDCOc0QVXurbSYXOqS%2FFjGx%2BQr2Y5HaNjs8D9NPHItf8b%2BFHXhUyjH%2B2WHBvp4YTH8lXHsLU%2FAo0iQXMKWR%2FpWTRNwhScKR3Hcx2UTNb0NbMzuH41bqmlQgJQTJnlJ2Gb6LWG4%3D",sz_score:"7.1",comment_score:"5.0"};</script></p>
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		<title>By: Melanie Phung</title>
		<link>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/google-recommends-screwing-affiliates-in-exchange-for-better-serp-positioning/#comment-405</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie Phung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/google-recommends-screwing-affiliates-in-exchange-for-better-serp-positioning/#comment-405</guid>
		<description>understand&lt;em&gt;ing&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>understand<em>ing</em><script type="text/javascript" id="szCommentHiddenTag:405">sz_comment_config_params.sz_comment_data[5]= {comment_id:"405", comment_author:"Melanie%20Phung", comment_author_url:"", comment_author_email:"dhRwxk%2B8dBLPa1AIZG2cdlHTqpwIn7nywICuO3r1tnZxArrxBStYGxZ7YckMSZlGLshXLEDbt9gYlUhuAYP%2FXMhOVJUzXEHO82F3bjMon%2Fpe5jtWVDwFdnrfbGBENLihdOMXz8wfeHLf2MK0h602SGa5pNO5tmRXr2feW8y0oZI%3D",sz_score:"5.0",comment_score:"5.0"};</script></p>
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		<title>By: Melanie Phung</title>
		<link>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/google-recommends-screwing-affiliates-in-exchange-for-better-serp-positioning/#comment-404</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie Phung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/google-recommends-screwing-affiliates-in-exchange-for-better-serp-positioning/#comment-404</guid>
		<description>FWIW: Yahoo never seemed to have a problem understand the deal with our affiliate IDs. It was only Google that had me pulling my hair out over those damn tracking variables.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW: Yahoo never seemed to have a problem understand the deal with our affiliate IDs. It was only Google that had me pulling my hair out over those damn tracking variables.<script type="text/javascript" id="szCommentHiddenTag:404">sz_comment_config_params.sz_comment_data[6]= {comment_id:"404", comment_author:"Melanie%20Phung", comment_author_url:"", comment_author_email:"dhRwxk%2B8dBLPa1AIZG2cdlHTqpwIn7nywICuO3r1tnZxArrxBStYGxZ7YckMSZlGLshXLEDbt9gYlUhuAYP%2FXMhOVJUzXEHO82F3bjMon%2Fpe5jtWVDwFdnrfbGBENLihdOMXz8wfeHLf2MK0h602SGa5pNO5tmRXr2feW8y0oZI%3D",sz_score:"5.0",comment_score:"5.0"};</script></p>
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		<title>By: Melanie Phung</title>
		<link>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/google-recommends-screwing-affiliates-in-exchange-for-better-serp-positioning/#comment-403</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie Phung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/google-recommends-screwing-affiliates-in-exchange-for-better-serp-positioning/#comment-403</guid>
		<description>Good post Sebastian. 

Let's say I hypothetically work as an in-house SEO for an e-commerce company. This company does a very significant amount of volume via partners and affiliates. I spent at least a year and a half begging, pleading, ranting about the need to strip tracking id's out of our URLs and doing a 301 to the canonical version, but my puppet masters always come back with "but some people don't accept cookies and we have to make sure the sale gets credited." 

So the fact that we put a ton of work into creating this brilliantly SEO'd site and our affiliates are ranking on Page 1 for competitive keyword terms with OUR page, while the non-affiliate version of the page is in Supplemental Hell, doesn't bother you? 

"Your problem, not ours"

Btw: we pay our affiliates up to $100 per sale. You'd think this would make it someone's problem besides just mine. 

So, if you're an affiliate of my company's and you suspect we've been trying to screw you out of commissions... rest assured, to my big distress and against my SEO-biased advice, we've never ever done this. Hope you're happy puny little affiliates because you made my life hell. Hypothetically. 

But of course, at some point during the summer, as if by magic, Google seemed to have figured it out and the free ride was over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post Sebastian. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say I hypothetically work as an in-house SEO for an e-commerce company. This company does a very significant amount of volume via partners and affiliates. I spent at least a year and a half begging, pleading, ranting about the need to strip tracking id&#8217;s out of our URLs and doing a 301 to the canonical version, but my puppet masters always come back with &#8220;but some people don&#8217;t accept cookies and we have to make sure the sale gets credited.&#8221; </p>
<p>So the fact that we put a ton of work into creating this brilliantly SEO&#8217;d site and our affiliates are ranking on Page 1 for competitive keyword terms with OUR page, while the non-affiliate version of the page is in Supplemental Hell, doesn&#8217;t bother you? </p>
<p>&#8220;Your problem, not ours&#8221;</p>
<p>Btw: we pay our affiliates up to $100 per sale. You&#8217;d think this would make it someone&#8217;s problem besides just mine. </p>
<p>So, if you&#8217;re an affiliate of my company&#8217;s and you suspect we&#8217;ve been trying to screw you out of commissions&#8230; rest assured, to my big distress and against my SEO-biased advice, we&#8217;ve never ever done this. Hope you&#8217;re happy puny little affiliates because you made my life hell. Hypothetically. </p>
<p>But of course, at some point during the summer, as if by magic, Google seemed to have figured it out and the free ride was over.<script type="text/javascript" id="szCommentHiddenTag:403">sz_comment_config_params.sz_comment_data[7]= {comment_id:"403", comment_author:"Melanie%20Phung", comment_author_url:"", comment_author_email:"dhRwxk%2B8dBLPa1AIZG2cdlHTqpwIn7nywICuO3r1tnZxArrxBStYGxZ7YckMSZlGLshXLEDbt9gYlUhuAYP%2FXMhOVJUzXEHO82F3bjMon%2Fpe5jtWVDwFdnrfbGBENLihdOMXz8wfeHLf2MK0h602SGa5pNO5tmRXr2feW8y0oZI%3D",sz_score:"5.0",comment_score:"5.0"};</script></p>
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		<title>By: If you&#8217;re not an Amway millionaire avoid BlogRush like the plague!</title>
		<link>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/google-recommends-screwing-affiliates-in-exchange-for-better-serp-positioning/#comment-386</link>
		<dc:creator>If you&#8217;re not an Amway millionaire avoid BlogRush like the plague!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/google-recommends-screwing-affiliates-in-exchange-for-better-serp-positioning/#comment-386</guid>
		<description>[...] Ok, that&#8217;s a geeky issue and you don&#8217;t need to take it very seriously. Request your BlogRush affiliate link with a plain user agent not accepting cookies or executing client sided scripting, then read the headers. BlogRush does a 302 redirect to their home page rescuing your affiliate ID in an unclosed base href directive. Chances are you&#8217;ll never get the promised credits from upsold visitors using uncommon user agents respectively browser settings, because they don&#8217;t manage their affiliate traffic properly. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Ok, that&#8217;s a geeky issue and you don&#8217;t need to take it very seriously. Request your BlogRush affiliate link with a plain user agent not accepting cookies or executing client sided scripting, then read the headers. BlogRush does a 302 redirect to their home page rescuing your affiliate ID in an unclosed base href directive. Chances are you&#8217;ll never get the promised credits from upsold visitors using uncommon user agents respectively browser settings, because they don&#8217;t manage their affiliate traffic properly. [&#8230;]<script type="text/javascript" id="szCommentHiddenTag:386">sz_comment_config_params.sz_comment_data[8]= {comment_id:"386", comment_author:"If%20you%26%238217%3Bre%20not%20an%20Amway%20millionaire%20avoid%20BlogRush%20like%20the%20plague%21", comment_author_url:"http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/why-blogrush-does-not-work-for-me/", comment_author_email:"",sz_score:"0",comment_score:"0"};</script></p>
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		<title>By: Heapseo &#187; I love Sphinn</title>
		<link>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/google-recommends-screwing-affiliates-in-exchange-for-better-serp-positioning/#comment-345</link>
		<dc:creator>Heapseo &#187; I love Sphinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/google-recommends-screwing-affiliates-in-exchange-for-better-serp-positioning/#comment-345</guid>
		<description>[...]  Google says you must screw your affiliates in order to get indexed (sebastians-pamphlets.com) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;]  Google says you must screw your affiliates in order to get indexed (sebastians-pamphlets.com) [&#8230;]<script type="text/javascript" id="szCommentHiddenTag:345">sz_comment_config_params.sz_comment_data[9]= {comment_id:"345", comment_author:"Heapseo%20%26raquo%3B%20I%20love%20Sphinn", comment_author_url:"http://www.heapseo.com/blog/i-love-sphinn_2007-09-13", comment_author_email:"",sz_score:"0",comment_score:"0"};</script></p>
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